Adam on Guns:

I have had this argument too many times, and need to clarify my position.

Every time there is a mass shooting, or terrorist attack, the conversation shifts to gun control.

Please pay attention to pop-ups, videos and links

I have listed each point by number for your easy reference

I encourage your feedback, But please quote my original statement. And link to Reliable Statistics

Main Point:

• Canada has tons of guns, like America.
  Canada has had only ten!
  1965 Leonard Hogue 7D
  1967 Shell Lake, Sask. 9D
  1970 Creston, BC. 8D
  1975 Gargantua. 13D
  1985 Lennoxvile, QB. 5D
  1989s Ecole Polytech, QB. 14D 9W
  1992 Concordia Unv, QB. 4D 1W
  1996 Vernon, BC.9D 2W
  2005 Mayerthorpe, AB. 5D 2006 Shedden, ON.8D
  2014 Edmonton, AB. 8D
  2014 Calgary, AB. 5D *stabbing*
  2014 Moncton, NB. D3 2W
  Mass shootings
  As defined as 4+ innocent people injured or killed.
  Shooter doesn't count.
  in last 120 years.
  While America has had 1000 in 1000 Days

School Shootings in Canada: (7)

1. 1975 ON Brampton Centennial 3D 13W
2. 1975 ON St. Pius X High School 2D 6W
3. 1989 QB École Polytechnique 15D 14W
4. 1992 QB Concordia University 4D 1W
5. 1999 AB W. R. Myers High School 1D 1W
6. 2006 QB Dawson College 2D 19W
7. 2016 SQ La Loche School 4D 7W

Mass Shootings in Canada: (13)

• 1965 Leonard Hogue 7D
• 1967 Shell Lake, Sask. 9D
• 1970 Creston, BC. 8D
• 1975 Gargantua. 13D
• 1985 Lennoxvile, QB. 5D
• 1989s Ecole Polytech, QB. 14D 9W
• 1992 Concordia Unv, QB. 4D 1W
• 1996 Vernon, BC.9D 2W
• 2005 Mayerthorpe, AB. 5D
• 2006 Shedden, ON.8D
• 2014 Edmonton, AB. 8D
• 2014 Calgary, AB. 5D *stabbing*
• 2014 Moncton, NB. D3 2W
• 2020 Portapique, NS. D17

Why? Because of Canada's:

1. Good mental health care & screening
2. Reasonable Gun laws requiring license
   License, Training Courses, Secure storage, Only take them to the range / hunting
   & background checks
   No History of Spousal abuse, Assault, crime, or Mental illness.
   Even apparently checking with recent ex-wifes for approval!
3. All Guns Must be registered ***
   Except Long Guns
   .
4. Mandatory Safety Courses*
   For Prohibited Weapons
5. Safe-Storage Laws
   Guns to be kept Locked, Bullets Seperately/Unloaded.
6. No "Open Carry" Bullshit
7. Very-Few Consealled Weapons Permits
8. Small Magazine Capacity (5 or 10) impede
   By allowing victims to escape / fight back.
   mass-shooters.
9. No Handguns or Assualt Weapons*
   With few exceptions. And with Special License and Reasonable Screening. I.e. Cops, Armed-Cars, Military.
10. We keep our guns at Home, and can only take them to the Range
    Not the Walmart / Gym / etc.
    for Practice.
11. Reasonable Self Defence Laws
    Only being able to defend your if they pose a threat to People, not property
12. Good Policing
13. Less Racism
14. Canada also didn't have the Wild West, Civil War, Prohibition, Race Wars and Drug Wars.
15. Less Gangs
16. Greater sense of community
17. General Awesomeness!

Canadian Example:

1. People often to bring up the 2017 Edmonton Terror Attack when discussing Gun laws.
2. I think it is the perfect example of Canadian gun control working well.
3. The [Bad Guy] only hurt 5 people. 3 of which were released from hospital the next day. All have made full recoveries.
4. Now imagine if the [Bad Guy] could have got a few AR-15s at the local Walmart for the cost of his truck rental--We would have had 10-40 dead.

Accidental Shooting Riskc:

1. Accidental Shooting are too common. Every other slightly-dangerous aspect of life is regulated for safety -- Guns should be top of the list.

Manditory Watching:

Videos:

NRA TV:

Pics:

Abortion

Assault Weapons

Autralia

Bombs

Can You Be Shot Underwater

Can You Be Shot Underwater2

Clotoris

Cycle

Death Breakdown

Explains Tiny Dick

Facts

Facts2

Fire

Flow Chart

History

Hope And Prayers

Kids

Kittens

Lesbian Lack Of Dick

Mascares

Mass Shooters

Mass Shooting

Nukes Kim Jon Un

Nunchucks

Participating

People Kill People

Pitchforks Torches

Police Deaths

Police Deaths U K

Responsible

Roads And Indiana

Rocks

School Shootings

Sharks

Shooting Compared

Take Away

Thoughts And Prayers

To The N R A

Took Away Cars

Trump Read Books

Vote

Vs Motor Vehicles

Youre Safe

My Thoughts:

• Canada's Gun laws seem good in general.
• There will always be examples for each side of the argument. Therefor, debate should come down to statistics and specific examples.
• Continue to allow guns used for legal hunting, but not those often used for murder.
• I have little desire to own a gun, but think other should be able to under responsible conditions & guidelines.
• I support the Liberal's Gun Control Platform as listed Here
• You (personally) cannot stop a Mass-Shooter, without rigorous training. See Video->
• Don't write gun laws on how a gun "looks"
  Things such as: Folding stocks, trigger grips, and sights
  . Base it on the "Damage"
  Things such as: Rate of Fire, Caliber, Magazine Size, Common Purpose.
  it can do in the wrong hands.
• Drilling School Children about School Shootings seems useless. Techniques Taught won't save lives, unlike other drills, and just scare the kids.
• "Good-Guy with Gun stopping Bad-Guy with Gun" scenarios****

  Inaccuracies:

  #3 The bad guy was on the ground, tackled FIRST, before the OTHER people showed up with their guns
  #4 The church later kicked out the Hero lady "Jeanne Assam" for being gay!
  #5 Bad-guy had threatened the store before. So the police took away his pistol permit revoked. But because Guns are so uncontrolled in the U.S. he picked up ANOTHER gun, and shot people.
  #7 seems a REALLY weird. "he was taken down by the pastor, the pastor's grandson and two church members" and "The pastor and the parishioners said they were able to get the gun away from Jesse Gates" But then Aaron Guyton shot him?
  #8 "He attempted to reload the AR-15 at that point, but was unable to do so, the weapon having apparently jammed." THEN "During that time, Nick Meli, a concealed carry permit holder, drew his Glock 22, claimed to have taken aim at Roberts, but did not fire since there was a bystander behind Roberts"
  
  . are FAR too rare, (when compared to the risk of accidental shootings) to allow for concealed guns. Also
  If untrained people carry a gun with them often, they will likely/eventually become:
  Complacent / Forgetful / Negiligent / Drunk / Violent
  And then:
  

  • Accidently hurt someone
  • Look for cases to use it that could be resolved without deadly force.
  • Escalate a Situation
  • (In the unlikely event they do need to use their gun) Shoot innocent People by mistake / error
• We can't even buy Fireworks in Victoria BC, and you can buy automatic weapons like candy.
• Gun Voilence by the Numbers
• Gun Score Card by State #1
• Gun Score Card by State #2
• 2014 Muncton Shooter' Facebook

My Thoughts on the United States Gun Problem:

• Second Ammendment: Bullshit!
• Stand your Ground: Bullshit!
• Assault/Automatic Weapons should be kept to the Military Only.
• Mass-Shooters often have a Mental-Disturbed (often Criminal) Diagnosis.
• Mass-Shooters have limited ability to kill when magazine Sizes are kept small.
• Mass-Shooter's Guns were obtained Legally, and stolen/lost far too easily.
• Many States have Ridiculously Lax Gun laws. And neighbouring states with stricter laws continue to suffer.
• Apparently 6 of the Top Crime Cities have a Lion's share of the violent crime problem.Link
• They are 25 times more likely to be murdered with a gun.Link
• This is an awful sign of the times.

What would King Adam Do Differently?

• Increase punishments for illegal guns
• Make Gun Certification course more-involved, regulated, and longer. Corriculum
  • Safe Storage
  • Your Legal Liabilities if you accidentally shoot someone
  • The limited scenarios/places you can fire your gun
  • Who to call if gun is lost/stolen.
  • Cleaning

  Also. The cost of these courses is justified, and necessary.
• Ban Guns that can easily/commonly be converted to Full-Automatics
• Encourage "Smart Guns".
• Strengthen Classroom doors in order to hopefully stop a mass-shooter.
• Require Certification Course for All Gun Owners
• After an appropriate Period of Greiving. Politicize the Gun Control Issue. Call for tighter controls when appropriate.
• Investigate how "Bad guns" got into "Bad hands". Call for tighter controls when appropriate.
• Acknowledge nothing will do will make us 100% safe. This is about limiting the frequency and scale of tragedies.

Hard Questions:

• If you were a soldier, and you had to clear / kill a BUNCH of people in a building, describe the gun you would like.
• Why do military people tell their partners they are reloading if reloading only takes 5 seconds?
• Where do you draw the line on what should be legal for a civilian to own? Knife, Musket, Hunting Rifle, Handgun, Automatic Rifles, Hand Grenade, Land Mines, Mortar Launcher, Artillery Piece, Tank, Fighter Plane, Mustard Gas, Nuclear Weapon? Where do you draw the line

To decrease the likelyhood of gun from being used in mass shootings:?

• Hard to conceal / ambush
• Small Magazine Capacity
• Two hands required to shoot
• No Bolt-Open Guns for mega-quick reloading

In addition, work on the societal issues that cause gun violence:

• The war on drugs.
• Poor mental health care +stigmatism.
• Cycle of poverty and family breakup.
• Poor education system which leads poor people unto drugs and dealing.
• Government corruption causing people to fear and mistrust it.
• Politicians more concerned with getting elected than fixing problems.

Enforce / Beef up existing laws:

• Every incidence of false statements on a background check is investigated, and if not a valid mistake is 10 years.
• Any crime committed while carrying a gun gets an extra 10 years in prison.
• No dealing the charge away.
• Any violent felony bars possession of a firearm for life.
• Any felon in possession of a firearm is a 10-year federal sentence.
• All confiscations of firearms must go in front of a judge with the accused having the same right to council as if they were charged with a crime before weapons are confidcated.

Stupid Arguments I keep hearing:

• They are trying to take my guns--No they aren't. Paste a Link.
• I'm a responsible gun owner--If true, Obviously Laws aren't written for you. *
  Welcome to Life.
  The Bad ruin it for the good.
  With guns, the stakes are too high not to regulate
  .

Videos:

• Daily Show

Examples:

• Pro-gun mom shot by Son
• UK Gun Buy Back, no More school Shootings

Links:

• How to Buy a Gun in 15 Countries
• Simple Carign Solution
• Little Red Riding Hood (Has a Gun)
• Hansel and Gretel (Have Guns)
• 3% of Americans own half the guns
• Trudeau Banned Gun List

Spreadsheets

• Mass Shootings Deaths 2013-2017 1587 Incidents, 1814 Dead. 6714 Injured.

Gun Options

• $1245USD $1495CAD Airforce Texan SS. Silenced AirGun Sniper
• Leathal Weapon Gun S01E08: Spike's Tactical Compressor.

Nate Guns

• CZ85A, Mini14, CX4.